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I want to leave!
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Patrick Porter
2004-09-19 03:54:21 UTC
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I'm beginning to look for information about living as an expatriate---my
rights and responsibilities, whether I should become a citizen of the
other country, etc. Where is a good place to begin on line?

thanks

phbp
Bill
2004-09-19 15:32:36 UTC
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Post by Patrick Porter
I'm beginning to look for information about living as an expatriate---my
rights and responsibilities, whether I should become a citizen of the
other country, etc. Where is a good place to begin on line?
thanks
phbp
A good place to start is

www.escapeartist.com

Lots of good information and links.
Patrick Porter
2004-09-19 16:43:38 UTC
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Thank you very much---
Expat Focus
2004-10-03 10:51:41 UTC
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Hi Patrick,

If you'll forgive me for blowing our own trumpet we have a fairly active
community at Expat Focus (http://www.expatfocus.com) where both expats and
those considering a life abroad are very welcome.

Kind regards,

Rod
--
Rod Morris
Expat Focus
Web: http://www.expatfocus.com
Andy Ball
2004-09-29 18:49:05 UTC
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PHBP> I'm beginning to look for information about living
as an expatriate---my rights and responsibilities,
whether I should become a citizen of the other
country, etc. Where is a good place to begin on
line?
I'm starting to think that everyone who is able should live
abroad for a while. It has certainly made me appreciate my
homeland a lot more! :-)

- Andy Ball.
Grumpy au Contraire
2004-09-29 23:35:14 UTC
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Post by Andy Ball
PHBP> I'm beginning to look for information about living
as an expatriate---my rights and responsibilities,
whether I should become a citizen of the other
country, etc. Where is a good place to begin on
line?
I'm starting to think that everyone who is able should live
abroad for a while. It has certainly made me appreciate my
homeland a lot more! :-)
- Andy Ball.
Traveling and working overseas certainly is a valuable reference in the
scheme of things. So is time spent in the military. Those that do not
experience either or both really miss out on some worthwhile experiences...
--
JT

Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4
Ulvesang
2004-10-27 07:18:51 UTC
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Yes, living in other countries has done worlds to improve my view of the
world, although I appreciate my homeland less and less.
--
-Ulvesang
Post by Andy Ball
PHBP> I'm beginning to look for information about living
as an expatriate---my rights and responsibilities,
whether I should become a citizen of the other
country, etc. Where is a good place to begin on
line?
I'm starting to think that everyone who is able should live
abroad for a while. It has certainly made me appreciate my
homeland a lot more! :-)
- Andy Ball.
Grumpy au Contraire
2004-10-27 16:46:17 UTC
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Wear a pillow on your ass so that when the door slams shut, it don't
hurt your whiny ass too much...

JT
Post by Ulvesang
Yes, living in other countries has done worlds to improve my view of the
world, although I appreciate my homeland less and less.
--
-Ulvesang
Post by Andy Ball
PHBP> I'm beginning to look for information about living
as an expatriate---my rights and responsibilities,
whether I should become a citizen of the other
country, etc. Where is a good place to begin on
line?
I'm starting to think that everyone who is able should live
abroad for a while. It has certainly made me appreciate my
homeland a lot more! :-)
- Andy Ball.
afowles
2004-12-07 07:50:59 UTC
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Don't worry about becoming a citizen. Too much hassle, and you risk
losing your American citizenship. Don't underestimate the power of an
American passport, in any country.

In other news, consider moving to Central/Eastern Europe. It's really
easy to get started here.
Jason G
2004-12-16 22:41:09 UTC
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In article <***@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, afowles
says...
Post by afowles
Don't worry about becoming a citizen. Too much hassle, and you risk
losing your American citizenship. Don't underestimate the power of an
American passport, in any country.
What power? I'm not asking snarkily, but what do you mean? Ability to get out
if things go crazy in the host country?
--
Jason G
"This isn't a matter of being tolerant;
it's a matter of being sane." --REP, a.s.c.
afowles
2004-12-17 11:51:51 UTC
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Perhaps power was the wrong word. And it's not the physical passport
that does it, it's the fact that you're American. Lots of people
around the world will treat you nicer simply because you're American.

It also helps to be American if you want to travel between countries.
And don't forget about taxes! In Poland, Americans don't have to pay
tax for the first two years living here.

To put it simply, America is "officially" respected all over the world.
Most folks that work in government offices would rather smoothe out
problems for Americans than cause them.

This is, of course, just *my* experience (in Italy and Poland). Your
mileage may vary.
JS
2004-12-21 01:10:18 UTC
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OMG, what a rubbish

JS
Post by afowles
Perhaps power was the wrong word. And it's not the physical passport
that does it, it's the fact that you're American. Lots of people
around the world will treat you nicer simply because you're American.
It also helps to be American if you want to travel between countries.
And don't forget about taxes! In Poland, Americans don't have to pay
tax for the first two years living here.
To put it simply, America is "officially" respected all over the world.
Most folks that work in government offices would rather smoothe out
problems for Americans than cause them.
This is, of course, just *my* experience (in Italy and Poland). Your
mileage may vary.
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afowles
2004-12-21 14:39:22 UTC
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May I ask why it's "a rubbish"?
JS
2004-12-23 01:10:57 UTC
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Read your own posts again and look for that "best of the best of the best"
message.
Also try to figure out whether it sounds arrogant.

JS
Post by afowles
May I ask why it's "a rubbish"?
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"news.verizon.net" <andrew_zito@yahoo.co.uk>
2005-03-10 01:22:41 UTC
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You don't know what you are talking about or speak from pampered middle
class position!

THE US IS PROBERLY THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT DOESN'T ENCOURAGE OR ASSIST ITS
CITIZENS TO LEAVE (BECAUSE THEY [the government] ARE TOO BUSY WITH THEIR
BILLIONAIRE MASTERS, AND PROBERLY BECAUSE THEY THE CITIZENS WOULD FIND OUT
THE FOREIGN DEVILS AREN'T AS BAD AS THEY ARE MADE OUT TO BE BY THE LYING
CORPORATE PRESS.)

As as small business man when I was last overseas the state dept was little
assistance and their great allies the "Brits" and "canuks" not only were
indifferent but obstructive behind the fact that you ask for a visa they say
as an American you don't need a visa BUT NEED ONE TO DO BUSINESS OR WORK
THERE!

SO YOU ARE NUTZ!
Post by afowles
Perhaps power was the wrong word. And it's not the physical passport
that does it, it's the fact that you're American. Lots of people
around the world will treat you nicer simply because you're American.
It also helps to be American if you want to travel between countries.
And don't forget about taxes! In Poland, Americans don't have to pay
tax for the first two years living here.
To put it simply, America is "officially" respected all over the world.
Most folks that work in government offices would rather smoothe out
problems for Americans than cause them.
This is, of course, just *my* experience (in Italy and Poland). Your
mileage may vary.
"news.verizon.net" <andrew_zito@yahoo.co.uk>
2005-03-10 01:29:00 UTC
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PS I suppose if the US government is so much favoring the military (they
have a lobby individual civilians don't) and this is what they do, that what
the US GOVT does for ordinary civilians is just make things worse.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=542&e=3&u=/ap/20050309/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/iraq_armor
WASHINGTON - The Defense Department hasn't developed a plan to reimburse
soldiers for equipment they've bought to fight in Iraq (news - web sites)
and Afghanistan (news - web sites) despite requirements in a law passed last
year, a senator says.

Poland you say? what about entry into comparable markets in Western Europe,
and Japan?
Post by "news.verizon.net" <***@yahoo.co.uk>
You don't know what you are talking about or speak from pampered middle
class position!
THE US IS PROBERLY THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT DOESN'T ENCOURAGE OR ASSIST ITS
CITIZENS TO LEAVE (BECAUSE THEY [the government] ARE TOO BUSY WITH THEIR
BILLIONAIRE MASTERS, AND PROBERLY BECAUSE THEY THE CITIZENS WOULD FIND OUT
THE FOREIGN DEVILS AREN'T AS BAD AS THEY ARE MADE OUT TO BE BY THE LYING
CORPORATE PRESS.)
As as small business man when I was last overseas the state dept was
little assistance and their great allies the "Brits" and "canuks" not only
were indifferent but obstructive behind the fact that you ask for a visa
they say as an American you don't need a visa BUT NEED ONE TO DO BUSINESS
OR WORK THERE!
SO YOU ARE NUTZ!
Post by afowles
Perhaps power was the wrong word. And it's not the physical passport
that does it, it's the fact that you're American. Lots of people
around the world will treat you nicer simply because you're American.
It also helps to be American if you want to travel between countries.
And don't forget about taxes! In Poland, Americans don't have to pay
tax for the first two years living here.
To put it simply, America is "officially" respected all over the world.
Most folks that work in government offices would rather smoothe out
problems for Americans than cause them.
This is, of course, just *my* experience (in Italy and Poland). Your
mileage may vary.
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